Do we even need politicians?

Does change happen because of politicians, or despite them?Armando and Anoosh speak to two campaigners addressing issues of inequality to discuss whether it's people or politicians who change public opinion - and whether activists are letting the government off the hook.GuestsRosamund Adoo-Kissi-Debrah launched her grass roots campaign to improve London's air quality after her daughter became the first person in the world to officially die from air pollution. Find out more about the Ella Roberta foundation for clean air: https://www.ellaroberta.org/Gary Stephenson is a former interest rate trader who made his fortune betting on the fallout of the 2008 market crash, before leaving the City to campaign against wealth inequality. See his YouTube channel, GarysEconomics, here: https://www.youtube.com/c/garyseconomics--This episode was originally published in the New Statesman podcast feed on April 20, 2022.Listen to the New Statesman podcast here: https://podfollow.com/new-statesmanSubscribe to the New Statesman for full access to all our reporting and analysis.Get your first month free: www.newstatesman.com/30daytrial Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.