“Telling Stories of Values” with Carl Safina (GWTW746)

My favorite conversations are often with people working in unrelated fields, looking at the world in profound ways, and exploring deep questions. Today's guest is Carl Safina, a writer, professor, and founding president of the Safina Center. Endlessly curious about life, animals, and the relationships between living and non-living systems, Carl shares how he views the world and how we can see the hidden worlds beyond our everyday experiences. In this conversation, we talk about his writing process, how being a jazz drummer brings a sense of rhythm to his writing, the creative nature of science, and the importance of listening. Most importantly, he shares why telling stories—specifically of values, connection, and relationships—is fundamental to our survival and becoming aware of the infinite value of animals and the earth around us.