4: The World is Not Full of Monsters! Rommelmann and Hepola Discuss

Nancy Rommelmann and Sarah Hepola are back! Talking about: + Why they love the Ben Dreyfuss essay "The World is Not Full of Monsters" + Who they listen to in the bathtub (Nancy: Elon Musk's new TED talk; Sarah: Ben Franklin by Ken Burns) + "Who is Max Boot? Did he write for Gawker?" + And speaking of Gawker... + The NYT interview with 8 "conservative" men + Who's allowed to say the C-word and why they're in favor of bringing back "twat" (it's funny!) + The hell that are women's spas and why the one they'd open would be called Fuck Your Intentions + Are 100% of hitchhikers murdered by serial killers or nah? + Virtual romances are intense! + Why Nancy is the "#1 Nancy" of the two Sarah knows. (The other is a robot.) And much more!EPISODE NOTES"9th and Hennepin," by Tom WaitsMuseum of Jurassic TechnologyJoe Frank official website"The World is Not Filled with Monsters," by Ben DreyfussBen Dreyfuss SubstackElon Musk TED Talk 2022Benjamin Franklin by Ted Burns (PBS)The Witches, by Stacey Schiff"The Things I'm Afraid to Write About," by Sarah HepolaNormal People, by Sally Rooney"The 'Pity Me!' Personal Essay" in Gawker"The 8 Conservative Men Are Making No Apologies" in NYT This is a public episode. If you'd like to discuss this with other subscribers or get access to bonus episodes, visit smokeempodcast.substack.com/subscribe