Kara Swisher: Musk's Cry for a Giant Hug

Elon Musk says that running Twitter is very painful, but it's a pain he brought on himself with firings, stunts, and overpaying for the company. Plus, Kara Swisher and Charlie Sykes discuss the art of podcasting, and the potentially much bigger goal behind the expansion of 'Don't Say Gay.' Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices