Susannah Patton: Lowy Institute's SouthEast Asia Program Director on New Zealand's influence on decline

New Zealand’s influence as a nation is on the decline, according to the Lowy Institute’s annual Asia Power Index.  NZ is one of only three countries to go backwards, alongside Russia and Myanmar.  A traceable drop in diplomacy since 2018 is partly to blame.  Lowy Institute’s SouthEast Asia Program Director Susannah Patton tells Mike Hosking the index looks at a range of things including economy, economic relationships and diplomacy.  Patton says China’s power is described as plateauing due to long-term challenges.  LISTEN ABOVE See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.